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by 87chevy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:05 pm

So I went to change my diff fluids this morning and ran into a problem. My front diff fill plug is stuck and I mean stuck and on top of that the plug is rounded off. Im the second owner of the TB so I dont know what the crap the first owner did to the plug but now I cant get it off. Any ideas :?:
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by JCrayton99 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:18 pm

Buy a new one and an easy out. I wont use any other screw extractor than this:

http://www.irwin.com/tools/screw-bolt-e ... -case-sets
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by v7guy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:49 pm

lots of heat, mapp gas or O/A
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by dvanbramer88 » Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:19 pm

v7guy wrote:lots of heat, mapp gas or O/A


Make it glow red, And clamp a pair of vise grips on it as tight as you can get em, and hit the vise grips with a hammer to break the plug loose.
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by bartonmd » Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:55 pm

Just out of curiosity, did you use a 6-point flank-drive (as opposed to corner-drive) socket and an impact?

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by tbangert » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:54 pm

dvanbramer88 wrote:
v7guy wrote:lots of heat, mapp gas or O/A


Make it glow red, And clamp a pair of vise grips on it as tight as you can get em, and hit the vise grips with a hammer to break the plug loose.



Last time I checked, aluminum doesnt glow red...
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by v7guy » Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:42 pm

Yeah, it won't turn any colors, and when it does it's a quarter second from becoming liquid. It still works with aluminum though.
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by KE7WOX » Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:24 am

tbangert wrote:
dvanbramer88 wrote:
v7guy wrote:lots of heat, mapp gas or O/A


Make it glow red, And clamp a pair of vise grips on it as tight as you can get em, and hit the vise grips with a hammer to break the plug loose.



Last time I checked, aluminum doesnt glow red...


Is the plug aluminium? it feels pretty heavy/
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by fishsticks » Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:11 am

KE7WOX wrote:Is the plug aluminium? it feels pretty heavy/



Steel plug, which explains why it's always getting stuck in the aluminum case.
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by bartonmd » Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:54 am

Also, on the heat, remember that you're better off heating the aluminum around the steel plug, because it'll expand away from the hole, not into it. (when materials expand, they expand generally uniformly like the holes are filled with material. The holes get larger, not smaller)

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by DirtyBacon04 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:04 am

I hate it when the wholes that I'm filling with material get larger... Perhaps I should use a torch, too.
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by tbangert » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:55 am

fishsticks wrote:
KE7WOX wrote:Is the plug aluminium? it feels pretty heavy/



Steel plug, which explains why it's always getting stuck in the aluminum case.


There must be variations then because my tb has an aluminum plug.
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by KE7WOX » Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:46 pm

tbangert wrote:
fishsticks wrote:
KE7WOX wrote:Is the plug aluminium? it feels pretty heavy/



Steel plug, which explains why it's always getting stuck in the aluminum case.


There must be variations then because my tb has an aluminum plug.


Ask another 05 owner. Mine is an 04 and fishstick's is an 02, so it could be possible that 05's switched to an aluminium plug.
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by Conner299 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:56 pm

05 owner here... Just used 3 whole of minutes of my break, for you, to get dirty... I got a magnet to stick to my front diff plug.
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by DirtyBacon04 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:35 pm

2004. Has a steel plug.
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by bartonmd » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:39 pm

tbangert wrote:
fishsticks wrote:
KE7WOX wrote:Is the plug aluminium? it feels pretty heavy/



Steel plug, which explains why it's always getting stuck in the aluminum case.


There must be variations then because my tb has an aluminum plug.


Mine looks aluminum, but I'm pretty sure it's stainless steel. It's much too heavy to be aluminum.

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by 87chevy » Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:45 pm

I tried heat but not that much. Was not sure bc of the aluminum case. My plug is steel. Ill bust out the vise grips and use more heat.
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by v7guy » Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:18 pm

You're going to need a good bit of heat, especially considering the gear oil is going to be acting as a big ole heat sink. Like Mike mentioned, try heating the case around the plug first, just circle motions around the bolt. If that doesn't work just blast the bolt. If you're using a MAPP torch expect to spend 5-10 minutes just heating it up.
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