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Ebay Spacers?

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by Cable810 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:36 am

Few questions. First should I install spacers before going up or after?

I found these on Ebay(ezaccessory) they look like marks spacers. Has anyone had experince with this Ebay Seller? I know some of you have bought Ebay spacers and had no problems with them. Would ya'll reccomend me purchaisng these or should I just spend the extra 47 and get them from mark?
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by The Roadie » Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:41 am

You should install spacers when you install tires that require them. Normally tires that require them will ALSO require that you ALREADY have a lift on.

That Ebay seller is ezaccessory.

YES, that seller is well-known and notorious around here. Please run a search and DO NOT EVEN THINK OF USING THESE SCUMBAGS.

Buy them from Mark. Cheap isn't always the right target. Used ones often become available, some sets for around $100 recently. Make sure to look here and on GMTN's classifieds.
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by navigator » Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:44 am

Caleb, are you going to use spacers for your current wheels or get new wheels?
There are also a few sets of adapters (to the full sized Chevy pattern) on the OS as well.
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by Cable810 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:03 am

I should have searched...Just tired and sore that it never cam to mind. Will do some searching this afternoon.

I am keeping the same wheels, Might get some different TB wheels. I know Jham on GMT has some for sale, but parents whant me to buy new. He says they have roughly 10K on them. Possiable stress facture/cracks are why my parents wont let me get them. They want me to be safe while doing all of this. Unless Mr.Roadie can give me a explanation on why they would be safe.

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:hijack: Someone in my church might give me a hand with the lift :excited: :excited:
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by The Roadie » Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:31 am

I have just about given up having technical debates with your nervous and non-engineer parents using you as a translator.

Regular inpection is what keeps cracks from becoming safety issues. Used items can be flux tested for early onset problems, but that raises the cost.

New items can have latent defects that have been wrung out of used items.

Your parents are playing a game of "keep away" with you and you don't get it yet.

If only new items are safe, at what mileage should we all be discarding the used ones we're all running?
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by dvanbramer88 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:09 am

The Roadie wrote:I have just about given up having technical debates with your nervous and non-engineer parents using you as a translator.

Regular inpection is what keeps cracks from becoming safety issues. Used items can be flux tested for early onset problems, but that raises the cost.

New items can have latent defects that have been wrung out of used items.

Your parents are playing a game of "keep away" with you and you don't get it yet.

If only new items are safe, at what mileage should we all be discarding the used ones we're all running?



I played this game with Josh's mom. He was looking at a truck just like mine lifted for a very fair price. But all she saw was model year 1997 and that means everything is just day's away from breaking. I mean everybody knows that after 15 years, everything needs to be replaced :shoot: Instead she forced him to overpay for another used TB.
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by navigator » Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:53 am

those Pre 1999 Chevy Trucks would run forever. I think there were some issues with the early 2000s not being quite as good but I think even those are worked out now. They hold their value really good as well.

Caleb, I think Bill might have nailed it. Your parents are very cautious and want to make sure you go at a slow pace so they make sure you can only do the "best and safest" so that you have to save even more money which takes longer. A lot of kids your age wouldn't have the discipline to save their money that well.
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by Cable810 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:39 pm

navigator wrote:so that you have to save even more money which takes longer. A lot of kids your age wouldn't have the discipline to save their money that well.


He he so true. Ever since I started working I have saved every dime exepct 10%. I only spent money when it was needed(Chiltons Manual, Gas(once), Stuff at Ace). The most I have spent so far was for the Lift Shocks and Struts.

I can wait to get new ones.

Thanks for ya'lls help!
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by DirtyBacon04 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:21 pm

Wow, I've never heard of only buying new rims due to "stress fractures".... I would imagine a stock GM rim would be good to 400k-500k+ w/o any offroad use before you could even IMAGINE having to inspect for stress fractures. If rims with 10k miles were of a statistical risk of fracturing apart, I'm sure we would've heard of it by now.
Also look at MotorSport Tech for spacers. Thats where I got mine, and they've been flawless (~10,000 miles on them).
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by Nakashige » Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:43 am

Make sure you have the right lugs for the spacers Pics to come next week during tb tear downn
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by dvanbramer88 » Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:47 pm

navigator wrote:those Pre 1999 Chevy Trucks would run forever. I think there were some issues with the early 2000s not being quite as good but I think even those are worked out now. They hold their value really good as well.

Caleb, I think Bill might have nailed it. Your parents are very cautious and want to make sure you go at a slow pace so they make sure you can only do the "best and safest" so that you have to save even more money which takes longer. A lot of kids your age wouldn't have the discipline to save their money that well.


I KNOW! Best trucks GM ever produced were the 88-98 model. Chevycrew would also agree, he has a few of them in one form or another. My 97 K1500 350 motor has 248,300 miles as it sits right now. I run 1000 miles about every 3 weeks, so I'm darn close to the big quarter million. My neighbor's 97 Tahoe 350 motor has over 275,000 last i asked him. They just run, plain and simple. The domestic world record for mileage was set in one. (somewhere right around a million miles) I plan on running mine for as long as she'll go. It's cheaper to maintain than buy a new truck, and they're tough trucks by any standard. And i agree on holding their value as well. My dad bought it in 2004 with 126,000 miles for 10k. His previous truck, a 96 dodge ram sport he bought around 2000-2001 with 80,000 miles for about $7500. At the time,people thought he was crazy for buying a truck that was older, for more money, and with more miles, But the the price difference reflects the quality difference from dodge to GM.


The import world record was set in a old volvo with somewhere around 1.8-2 million miles IIRC.
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