TreadWright Guard Dog MT's

[Regulator1175]

My tires came in this afternoon while I was out of town. My father took the truck down to the shop and got them mounted for me, and then had to call a cab because he couldn't get the truck out of the parking lot. I spent 3 hours cutting this evening, unfortunately it was primarily with a pair of tin snips, and ma now a bit lighter by about two inch's of fender. I did manage to get it home following my parking lot trimming. Tomorrow I will put the grinding wheel to it and smooth up my terrible cuts. I will get pictures posted soon.

My initial reactions: They are a huge improvement over what I had. The tires themselves look great, and the tire shop didn't believe me when I told them that the tires were re-treads. They feel great going down the road, and the tire hum is very minimal. This is my first set of MT's, so I didn't know what to expect for noise, I am pleasantly surprised.

I must have missed it but what size did you get? Just for my referrance, and what size spacers are you running?

I am running 285-70-17's with the Ebay - Wheeladapter 1.3" adapters.

[TangoBravo]

ok thanks for the info.

[teebes]

So how is everyone's Treadwrights holding up? Curious to hear about the trail experience while aired down, ~15-18psi? Also, rough estimate of off-road miles..

Thx!

[Regulator1175]

So how is everyone's Treadwrights holding up? Curious to hear about the trail experience while aired down, ~15-18psi? Also, rough estimate of off-road miles..

Thx!

On the pavement I am loving them. They aren't very loud and feel really good. We had a good rain storm a few days ago and I couldn't get them to break loose, no matter what I tried. They haven't seen dirt yet, and probably wont until TECORE. I will report back following that trip as to their performance.

[tbangert]

I have roughly 2500 miles on mine, no complaints yet. Finally tried them out on some soft sand, they did ok. I was feeling them dig down as I was going. For off road miles... maybe 75 miles? There arent too many long trails here, most can be done in an hour. There is one trail I want to try but need some skids and a few recovery pieces before I try it.

[TangoBravo]

I have spoken to them about airing down the tires and they directed me to a f.a.q section of there website. It states that airing the tires down will void the warrenty, but that the tires will perform like new tires. So I wonder does airing down new tires also void thier warrenty? I can see why treadwright would not encourage airing down the tires but if they are so confident that they will perform as new what is the worry? I like the tires don't get me wrong, but maybe they should have worded things differantly in the F.A.Q section. It just leads me to believe that the tires will perform like new tires in aired down situations, but the fact that they won't warrenty them leads me to belive that they won't. But then I guess they only know what you tell them. And what are the odds that more then one tire has a failure? Over all I think for the price warrenty or not they a great tires, one tire for my truck cost $75.00 compared to $218.00 for a comparable tire, at that price you can't beat it and who's to say that bran new expensive tire won't fail the first time out also just because it is new doesn't make it good too me the fact that treadwright uses the same brand core I would be buying anyhow puts me at ease a bit because I know it has seen some miles and has not failed(yet)lol.

[teebes]

Right, almost no tire manufacturer will warranty tires when airing down. I'm curious about a couple factors: the longevity with frequent airing down, offroad trips (heat build up/cycles) along with tire deformation / patch size when airing down.

At about half the price of common MT's, its hard not to give them more thought!

Another point of interest... Does anyone know the weight estimates for thei 285/75/16's? I'm sure they vary based on which carcass is used. Thx!!

[TangoBravo]

I would say that the weight would be close to a new tire of the same type as part of the process is stripping the old tread off in theary all you are doing after that is making it new again so it should be slightly heavier or slightly lighter but I wouldn't expect it to be pounds one way or the other, just my .02 and since nobody warrenties tires that have been aired down then I guess the only real determining factor is durability, and performance. But in my opinion if the performance is about the same but the tires didn't last as long I think I would be ok with that as long as they didn't need to be replaced every 3 months or something crazy. I looked up the tires for my truck shipped to my house 385.67 now for a price like that for 4 tires it is worth at least an honest shot. IMO

[djthumper]

I have been wondering how well they will do in the heat here in Vegas. I mean primarily for on the road since the asphalt gets really hot during the summer.

[TangoBravo]

I have lived in Vegas and the roads and asphalt get's real hot there. One time I even had the sticky asphalt pull my shoe off.

[Zero]

God bless the west coast...where you can cook your egg's on the sidewalk bahahahaha

[djthumper]

It is kind of sad to see the LA Basin hotter than Vegas right now.

[tbangert]

I think these tires are heavier than a non retread tire, you have to remember that there is extra rubber between the carcass and the tread. If I remember right a 265/75-16 on a calculator is a 31.8" or something and Treadwright says the Guard Dogs measure at 32.2". Shipping weight of these was like 50lbs each or something, I know size factors in as "weight" also. As far as airing down, I was doing a lot of research on the tires before I bought a set, and the Moab Jeepers or something like that, had a wragler running the Guard Dogs aired down many times with no problems. They even did a 1 year later test doing the same things with I think 15k miles on the tires and they performed like new. Its on youtube, also Treadwright has a Facebook page with all the vids and whatnot.

[TangoBravo]

Wow I wouldn't have guessed they weighed that much more, I mean sure they are adding rubber but they shave a lot off so that it can be blended and not look like somekind of big rig tire, I have seen treadwrights tires and it doesn't appear to me that they just slap a new band or rubber on old tread the tire would come out looking like garbage. IMO I just can't see them really weighing pounds more then a comparable new tire, as they do strip the carcas down to a good base then build it back up to like new. IDK just my .02

[tbangert]

When I get a 5th tire for my spare, Ill see if I can toss it on a shipping scale or something to get an actual weight. I know mine were heavy when I got them. These being the first "big" tires Ive ever got, I have nothing to compare to.

[teebes]

I think these tires are heavier than a non retread tire, you have to remember that there is extra rubber between the carcass and the tread. If I remember right a on a calculator is a 31.8" or something and Treadwright says the Guard Dogs measure at 32.2". Shipping weight of these was like 50lbs each or something, I know size factors in as "weight" also. As far as airing down, I was doing a lot of research on the tires before I bought a set, and the Moab Jeepers or something like that, had a wragler running the Guard Dogs aired down many times with no problems. They even did a 1 year later test doing the same things with I think 15k miles on the tires and they performed like new. Its on youtube, also Treadwright has a Facebook page with all the vids and whatnot.

Thanks! 50 lbs doesn't seem that bad, for the size you mentioned. In comparison, Toyo's come in around 58lbs (toyo's are one of the heaviest, iirc).

I haven't found manyof the followup reviews as you mentioned. I'll keep searching

[bobbyblaze]

^^^^ I just weighed my 265/75-16 BFG KM M/T at 50 lbs with 11/32 tread left. Would weigh a little more new with that missing 8/32. Damn asphalt !

[tbangert]

Thanks! 50 lbs doesn't seem that bad, for the size you mentioned. In comparison, Toyo's come in around 58lbs (toyo's are one of the heaviest, iirc).

I haven't found manyof the followup reviews as you mentioned. I'll keep searching

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LihRCk5j ... ure=search

I found the link through there facebook page.

[TangoBravo]

I have been in need of new tires for awhile now. I am happy to let everyone know that I have ordered a set from treadwright should be here next week sometime. Pretty happy as this is my first real mod I will remember to put one on a scale I am interested in what it really weighs in at.

[TangoBravo]

I have been in need of new tires for awhile now. I am happy to let everyone know that I have ordered a set from treadwright should be here next week sometime. Pretty happy as this is my first real mod I will remember to put one on a scale I am interested in what it really weighs in at.

Ok so just looked on Fedex who is shipping the tires and they state that each tire is 44.6lbs, I got 265/75/16 I would say that isn't bad at all.