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Jerry Cans...

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by bartonmd » Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:27 pm

I was surfing the Survival forum on ARFCOM, and ran across these...

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http://www.deutscheoptik.com/catalog/pr ... ts_id=1030

They're the german military 20L gas/diesel jerry cans, and the guys swear by them. They are apparently very high quality, and are very hard to kill... And if you order (4), you get a free nozzle... They're $127 shipped for (4) cans and a nozzle.

Just for the record, I don't have a pony in the race, so to speak... Just saw these and read not too long ago that it was getting hard to find good jerry cans, because of the CARB stuff (not selling the NATO cans any more, etc)...

They also have these French "Wine" cannisters, which are basically 10L jerry cans made for wine...
http://www.deutscheoptik.com/catalog/pr ... ts_id=1072


Anybody else got good sources for good jerry cans??

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by Trail X » Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:39 pm

I have two Wedco cans. They are metal cans... so the only issue I've had with them is minor surface spot rust from rubbing with my roof rack. They do NOT leak, which is why they are worth the cost. Only $50 per.

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The only problem with the carb compiant cans is the nozzle. I hate using it... so I use a super siphon most of the time (sometimes a little tricky to use...).

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Both can be found here: http://www.expeditionexchange.com/wedco/
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by The Roadie » Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:43 pm

I swear by the molded Scepters that I bought pre-ban. I think I have 6 of them - now worth $75-80 each because Scepter (Canada) totally abandoned the US market after the CARB issues. Not just spout and locking issues, but plastic permeability. Since you can drop them out of helicopters, they might also be useful to stack for climbing ledges.

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by bartonmd » Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:55 pm

oooh... so the ones that I posted look to be exactly like the Wedco "pre-CARB" cans, except for the OD green color...

I think at this point, I'm going to rokk the $31.75 per (with a free spout) of the german ones...

...unless there's a good reason not to?

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by Trail X » Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:59 pm

Make SURE you get gasoline canisers. The difference is both the spout color (yellow = diesel, red = gasoline) and the gasket used.

The gasoline will eat away at a diesel gasket and leak. The gasoline gaskets are black, diesel gaskets are orange... I beleive.
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by bartonmd » Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:46 pm

I know it's a big deal with the Sceptre cans, because the diesel seal swells and breaks the cap... These are apparently fine, but I am currently seeking a difinitive answer on that...

I do know that with these being the old-style standard military/NATO/European cans, that there are several people who sell the black gaskets for them.

A couple of mine will be used for diesel, anyway, though... :safari:


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by Dizzlenator » Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:42 pm

Think these would hold a paintjob?? Would love to get some and paint them to match my rims, dark grey.

Anybody wanna go in on a set with me?? I would only need 2, and it's not a bad deal for a set of 4. You can have the nozzle, I plan to use the super siphon like JD has.

Speaking of gas cans, JD, you given BajaRack your review of their holder?? Have they mentioned a price?
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by bartonmd » Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:01 pm

Ah, these guys also sell the gasoline/diesel gaskets for these cans... They're $9 per (3)...

http://www.deutscheoptik.com/catalog/pr ... ts_id=1302

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by Trail X » Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:11 pm

Yeah I submitted the review to them. Haven't heard back yet... sometimes the guy takes a little while to get back to me.

From a post on another website (an FJ cruiser forum):

The price for the dual fuel can holder is $97.00 plus shipping (approximately $18.00), as we always due with new products we will do a group buy for 10 at $80.00 plus shipping, please e-mail your request to sales@bajarack.com


Paint would be fine on the metal wedcos... as long as you sanded well and used a decent paint. Not sure if they are painted or powdercoated from the factory.
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by Gordinho80 » Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:33 pm

Dizzlenator wrote:Think these would hold a paintjob?? Would love to get some and paint them to match my rims, dark grey.

Anybody wanna go in on a set with me?? I would only need 2, and it's not a bad deal for a set of 4. You can have the nozzle, I plan to use the super siphon like JD has.

Speaking of gas cans, JD, you given BajaRack your review of their holder?? Have they mentioned a price?

I guess I could go in for 1... MAYBE 2....
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by Dizzlenator » Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:37 pm

Cool James, thanks for the info. I wouldn't mind getting ahold of a holder like that for long trips, etc. Always good to have fuel around when on the trails.

Mario, if you wanna do it, let me know. Or find 1 more person, and I'm in.
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by bartonmd » Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:41 pm

Well, that sealed it!!

I was wanting to order some of these before they're gone, but wasn't wanting too, because of the wife's job situation... She just called me and she got the 37.5/week job for the state, for the next 4 months!! :excited: It's a job created by a grant, so it's full time hours, but it's only for the next 4-5 months... It also gets her a foot in the door at IDEM while she's working there!

My order is going in... N-O-W!!!

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by The Roadie » Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:48 pm

Oh, that's GREAT NEWS Mike! Congratulate her for us! So much better than taking infomercial orders or whatever she was playing with part time.
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by bartonmd » Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:51 pm

The Roadie wrote:Oh, that's GREAT NEWS Mike! Congratulate her for us! So much better than taking infomercial orders or whatever she was playing with part time.


Absolutely will do!

Her evening job is actually taking coin orders for the US Mint, which she'll probably still keep one or 2 days a week, not only for the extra money, but for the $35/month it saves us on our cell phone bill... Also remembering that if she doesn't get anything REAL in the next 4 months, she'll need to go back to this job with higher hours in 4 months...

Can order, along with the extra gaskets, and extra nozzle is in and on its way :coffee2: (just so I don't COMPLETELY hi-jack my own thread)

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by Trail X » Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:41 pm

JamesDowning wrote:Yeah I submitted the review to them. Haven't heard back yet... sometimes the guy takes a little while to get back to me.


He actually just got back to me. They are implementing some changes to address some concerns I had... their engineering team works quick!
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by KE7WOX » Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:35 am

So are those shipped from Germany or what? I like more the non childproof cap design of the jerrycans (and Expedition Exchange ran out of the Wedco ones)
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by bartonmd » Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:01 am

KE7WOX wrote:So are those shipped from Germany or what? I like more the non childproof cap design of the jerrycans (and Expedition Exchange ran out of the Wedco ones)


No, they're shipped from the US... They're just a german militaria place...

The guys on ARFCOM who have those and also have the older Wedco ones say that they're pretty sure they're made by the same people... Welds are the same, pieces are the same, etc...

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by HARDTRAILZ » Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:01 am

UMM, do you really need four of them? I know someone that could use one.....

I would like to know what the extra nozzle cost?
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by Gordinho80 » Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:44 am

Dan, want to go ahead and get these? I'll keep looking for a buyer for the 4th, but if I can't find one, I'll take it and we'll do an even split.
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by bartonmd » Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:55 am

HARDTRAILZ wrote:UMM, do you really need four of them? I know someone that could use one.....

I would like to know what the extra nozzle cost?


If you want 2 cans and a nozzle, I'll split another set with you (minus maybe $10 for the nozzle, which is $18 by itself)

http://www.deutscheoptik.com/catalog/pr ... ts_id=1032

These aren't all for off-roading... Some are for storage for a genset... Power goes out for a day at a time where I am, once a year or so... Nice to keep the freezers cold, phones charged, interwebs, etc...

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