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Compressor -- What do have and what do think of it?

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by Philberto » Mon May 24, 2010 7:58 pm

Of course, but if you have an air tank, then you're taking at least some of the load off. I'll still stick with my mv50, as I don't really care if it takes a dump compared to if I had a viair one.
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by OregTrailBlazin » Tue May 25, 2010 12:53 pm

Philberto wrote:Of course, but if you have an air tank, then you're taking at least some of the load off. I'll still stick with my mv50, as I don't really care if it takes a dump compared to if I had a viair one.



The only load your taking off is the small amount of volume the tank holds, the pump still has to bring the tank up to pressure. Most systems have a working pressure at the lowest of 85lbs and a high of 200lbs. A standard system starts at 85lbs and shuts off at 105lbs. I imagine there is less stress if you didn't run a tank, unless you running that much pressure in your tires.

Personally, even though I'm on a very tight budget, I would save for the Viair, or equivalent. Sure the MV50 is cheap, but by the time your on your 3rd compressor, the savings don't really add up. Not only in money value, but, you've gotta figure when that thing finally takes a dump, your not going to be in your driveway, or the mall parking lot!! What's your backup?
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by Zero » Tue May 25, 2010 1:14 pm

lol a bike pump! :slap:
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by Saxis » Tue May 25, 2010 1:16 pm

Zero wrote:lol a bike pump! :slap:


Pretty much. I have a foot pump that I used to carry on the Quad. It was used about once every 2 years, but sure was handy when needed.
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by Trail X » Tue May 25, 2010 2:40 pm

OregTrailBlazin wrote:The only load your taking off is the small amount of volume the tank holds, the pump still has to bring the tank up to pressure. Most systems have a working pressure at the lowest of 85lbs and a high of 200lbs. A standard system starts at 85lbs and shuts off at 105lbs. I imagine there is less stress if you didn't run a tank, unless you running that much pressure in your tires.

Personally, even though I'm on a very tight budget, I would save for the Viair, or equivalent. Sure the MV50 is cheap, but by the time your on your 3rd compressor, the savings don't really add up. Not only in money value, but, you've gotta figure when that thing finally takes a dump, your not going to be in your driveway, or the mall parking lot!! What's your backup?


Johnny damn you... always making me second guess myself.

But seriously, you've got some good points there. Gotta wonder what the life span of a MV-50 is vs. a Viair. I think a lot of it has to do with your demand, too. If you use the pump 5 times a year, the Viair may never pay for itself over the MV-50.
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by Philberto » Tue May 25, 2010 3:53 pm

Has anybody here ever read of an mv50 burning out? I'd be interested in finding out.
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by HARDTRAILZ » Tue May 25, 2010 4:07 pm

I have the MV-50 now and still carry my el cheapo as a back up. Most dont wheel alone and I try not to use mine if I dont have to, so it saves wear and tear. Also by not wheeling alone, you have a back up in your wheeling buddies. Could also do a co2 or something. I figure with 50 bux in the 2 pumps I am way ahead for my usage.
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by bartonmd » Tue May 25, 2010 4:16 pm

Philberto wrote:Has anybody here ever read of an mv50 burning out? I'd be interested in finding out.


Not I... and I looked...

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by DJones » Tue May 25, 2010 10:06 pm

It looks like they discontinued the 250 psi version, but here is the 300 psi version of what I use: Interdynamics Heavy Duty Truck Air. The problem I had is that the pressure gauge broke. The cigarette plug doesn't support getting run over either.
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by Trail X » Wed May 26, 2010 8:47 am

Anything that plugs into the cig outlet probably isn't worth carrying. A cig outlet can push ~15 amps max. A good compressor pulls 30-40 amps.

Not meaning for that to come across prick-like, but the current rating is directly related to how fast it fills the tire.
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by HARDTRAILZ » Wed May 26, 2010 8:55 am

Anyone seen any good write-ups on someone mounting a MV-50 for onboard air?
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by Zero » Wed May 26, 2010 8:57 am

I have my cheap-o cig lighter powered compressor. In the end its better then having nothing. I would like to rig on on board air system though in the future with some fittings in the back somewhere. then i just need to carry some hose and plug the hose in when its needed.
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by Trail X » Wed May 26, 2010 9:23 am

HARDTRAILZ wrote:Anyone seen any good write-ups on someone mounting a MV-50 for onboard air?


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by Gordinho80 » Wed May 26, 2010 9:35 am

Nice writeup. Only thing about that setup that worries me is heat. For a typical 4 tire use, the unit shouldn't get very hot, but it could. Seems like little ventilation in that install. I think our quarter panel spaces have a little more room, but probably less ventilation...
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by bartonmd » Wed May 26, 2010 10:52 am

Gordinho80 wrote:Nice writeup. Only thing about that setup that worries me is heat. For a typical 4 tire use, the unit shouldn't get very hot, but it could. Seems like little ventilation in that install. I think our quarter panel spaces have a little more room, but probably less ventilation...


Mine gets pretty warm when filling my 265-75-16 tires on my truck FROM 20psi UP TO 65psi... Like "can't touch the compressor part for more than 1/2 second" warm...

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by Trail X » Wed May 26, 2010 10:57 am

bartonmd wrote:
Gordinho80 wrote:Nice writeup. Only thing about that setup that worries me is heat. For a typical 4 tire use, the unit shouldn't get very hot, but it could. Seems like little ventilation in that install. I think our quarter panel spaces have a little more room, but probably less ventilation...


Mine gets pretty warm when filling my 265-75-16 tires on my truck FROM 20psi UP TO 65psi... Like "can't touch the compressor part for more than 1/2 second" warm...

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65 PSI? That's your problem right there...

Does your truck weigh that much?
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by HARDTRAILZ » Wed May 26, 2010 11:11 am

[quote="JamesDowning
Mine gets pretty warm when filling my 265-75-16 tires on my truck FROM 20psi UP TO 65psi... Like "can't touch the compressor part for more than 1/2 second" warm...

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65 PSI? That's your problem right there...

Does your truck weigh that much?[/quote]

His Cummins when hauling a trailer after airing down for offroad would need to go that high.

I like that, but heat is my concern as well.

I keep thinking that there is all that room where the spare tire was. Maybe something there, but protecting it from the elements would be kinda tricky.
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by Saxis » Wed May 26, 2010 11:23 am

Looks like my stock compressor is kind of above the spare tire location on the driver's side. I assumed that was the compressor at least... Looked like it was pretty well protected by sheet metal. I'm hoping I can get a ViAir compressor in that location. Probably put the tank in the spare tire location.
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by DJones » Wed May 26, 2010 11:29 am

JamesDowning wrote:Anything that plugs into the cig outlet probably isn't worth carrying. A cig outlet can push ~15 amps max. A good compressor pulls 30-40 amps.

Not meaning for that to come across prick-like, but the current rating is directly related to how fast it fills the tire.


I will keep that in mind. I need to get my own anyway, so any information is good reading material. For the typical roadside emergency, a cig outlet compressor is fine.
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by bartonmd » Wed May 26, 2010 12:00 pm

HARDTRAILZ wrote:
JamesDowning wrote:65 PSI? That's your problem right there...

Does your truck weigh that much?


His Cummins when hauling a trailer after airing down for offroad would need to go that high.



Yep... 7200# truck with 1800# of wood in the bed, towing a 3500# utility trailer full of wood...

Air down to go back into the property to the log butts pile to cut, split, and load firewood; then get back to the barn and air up for the 45 minute drive from my grandparents' house to my house...

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ETA: and the trailer tires go from 35 to 50psi...
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