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by Trail X » Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:06 pm

Did you bleed them immediately prior to the brakes not working? or did they just randomly stop working one day?
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by KingBird » Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:08 pm

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by mikekey » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:01 pm

I've never bleed brakes with the engine running..... and nor should you ever.

No, I bleed them after I did the front suspension rebuild, when I had the calipers off. It's been this way for awhile, I just haven't gotten around to worrying and or bitching about it till now, because now I need to get my crap in gear. Especially if I want to make it to Utah this Sept.

I just ordered a Motive power bleeder, probably a good thing to have. I'll give that a whirl and if not, examine the cylinder. Sometimes during normal bleeding the piston seals can be damaged do to contaminants in the cylinder bore. Which I hope it's not a piston seal.
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by KingBird » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:55 pm

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by mikekey » Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:42 pm

Not having issues currently, oh boy why does that statement remind me of a certain battery discuss on another certain sister forum. :facepalm:
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by Trail X » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:35 pm

I'm curious if there is any reason behind either viewpoint.
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by KingBird » Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:12 pm

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by The Roadie » Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:58 pm

Trail X wrote:
I've reused my stock 35mm nuts over and over and over on every aftermarket shaft I've had. The threads are all the same.
Ditto.
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by HARDTRAILZ » Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:15 pm

Why?

Really curious...been researching and axle nuts may be prevailing torque.
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by Trail X » Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:10 am

They are. Stock nuts are nylock. Aftermarket are generally ovulated. However, if you torque them properly, you should not have any issues of them loosening. There's minimal forces to loosen these nuts as far as I understand. I believe they don't even need that high of torque values, and it's mainly a carryover from the older trucks where they didn't have a unitized and preloaded wheel bearing.
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by HARDTRAILZ » Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:20 am

Ok. I torque mine to..."tight". I dont see any forces on them either.

Why reuse one if you have a new one though? I have the old ones in the garage incase of a crossthread or a lost one, but do not understand why you would carry over old parts on to the new.
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by v7guy » Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:38 am

I think mostly its about ovulated threads like on the pinion. No biggie and in our own app I'm not sure it mattees.
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by HARDTRAILZ » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:02 am

I dont think it matters either, but really curious as to why you would carry over the nut.

To me its like reusing the studs on an axle shaft....you can but new is typically better and easier.
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by The Roadie » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:57 am

I did it so I only needed to carry the 35mm socket on the trail. Then I changed my mind in case I was the only one on a trail ride with a spare CV shaft. If I had to help someone remove a 36mm nut, I started carrying both sockets I own. So it seems I haven't reexamined my policy.
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by HARDTRAILZ » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:10 am

Since the 36mm works on either nut, you only need to carry one socket.
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by Trail X » Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:02 pm

HARDTRAILZ wrote:... really curious as to why you would carry over the nut.


Simple, I purchased my 35mm socket before ever switching to an aftermarket CV.
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by HARDTRAILZ » Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:08 pm

Trail X wrote:
HARDTRAILZ wrote:... really curious as to why you would carry over the nut.


Simple, I purchased my 35mm socket before ever switching to an aftermarket CV.


Makes complete sense then!
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by The Roadie » Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:27 am

Trail X wrote:Simple, I purchased my 35mm socket before ever switching to an aftermarket CV.
Ditto. Was doing this stuff before there WERE aftermarket shafts.
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by KingBird » Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:05 am

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by HARDTRAILZ » Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:27 am

KingBird wrote:The stock nut seems to be of higher quality than the aftermarket's as well.


How many aftermarkets you tried for comparison?
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