What did you do to your GMT today?

by **HARDTRAILZ** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:39 pm

Blazintrails03 wrote:
Blazintrails03 wrote:Got my coil overs built today. Always great when its all new parts and they go together with ease. Well the lift was used but eh

Bobby, did you get the Icons?

Oh haha no. Just the regular Bilsteins, replacement springs (factory rate), and one of marks original kits I got from someone on here or TV I can't remember. I don't have the money or needs for the adjustables or higher spring rates.

Just an FYI...you dont have coilovers. Just a typical strut assembly.

by **Blazintrails03** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:22 pm

HARDTRAILZ wrote:
Blazintrails03 wrote:
Blazintrails03 wrote:Got my coil overs built today. Always great when its all new parts and they go together with ease. Well the lift was used but eh

Bobby, did you get the Icons?

Oh haha no. Just the regular Bilsteins, replacement springs (factory rate), and one of marks original kits I got from someone on here or TV I can't remember. I don't have the money or needs for the adjustables or higher spring rates.

Just an FYI...you dont have coilovers. Just a typical strut assembly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coilover

actually a typical strut assembly would just be the strut itself

when you put the whole system together including spring is when it becomes a coil over system. its just not adjustable

kinda liked airforce one isnt really airforce one until the president is onboard :finger:

by **navigator** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:39 pm

I think this statement in the link you reference clears it up
".....The shock absorber and spring are assembled as a unit prior to installation, and are replaced as a unit when the shock absorber has leaked. This provides for optimal damping without torsional loads....."

we can replace ours independently and swap in different coils or struts as we like. That tells me that we have a coil and a strut because I don't think we can swap in a Bilstien HD strut in a Radflo coilover nor would we want to.

I think coilovers are also usually rebuildable where our OEM design has disposable struts.

by **Blazintrails03** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:03 pm

navigator wrote:I think this statement in the link you reference clears it up
".....The shock absorber and spring are assembled as a unit prior to installation, and are replaced as a unit when the shock absorber has leaked. This provides for optimal damping without torsional loads....."

we can replace ours independently and swap in different coils or struts as we like. That tells me that we have a coil and a strut because I don't think we can swap in a Bilstien HD strut in a Radflo coilover nor would we want to.

I think coilovers are also usually rebuildable where our OEM design has disposable struts.

Yeah it also starts off by saying

"A coilover is an automobile suspension device. "Coilover" is short for "coil spring over strut". It consists of a shock absorber with a coil spring encircling it."

And also continues to say

"Some coilovers allow adjustment of ride height and stiffness, using a simple threaded spring perch similar to a nut. More advanced adjustable coilover systems will use a threaded shock body, coupled with an adjustable lower mount for ride height adjustment, while an adjustment knob is used to adjust damping, commonly referred to as "stiffness.""

So technically although they are not adjustable it is a Coilover Setup

by **fishsticks** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:04 pm

Six in one, half dozen in the other.

You can take apart a Radflo and replace the springs if you want. You can remove the stock assembly as a unit.

That Wikipedia article sounds like it was written by a highschooler.

by **mikekey** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:52 pm

I wish I bought Radflos to start with. Ugh.

by **Blazintrails03** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:52 pm

fishsticks wrote:Six in one, half dozen in the other.

You can take apart a Radflo and replace the springs if you want. You can remove the stock assembly as a unit.

That Wikipedia article sounds like it was written by a highschooler.

And it seems most of the build threads on here talk about people taking their setup apart and changing out springs as well. Like you said "six in one, half dozen in the other". Lay the 2 systems side by side and see what you got. A strut mount, spring, strut, and perch. The 2 have different mounts and one has an adjustable spring perch but they both boil down to the same basic principle a coil mounted over a strut.

On another note, apart from this thread being hijacked for a short while, it may look like its becoming a heated discussion and I just want to make it clear that this is all in fun. I have nothing but respect for the 3 of you (hardtrailz, fishsticks, and navigator) as well everyone else on the site :cheers:

by **fishsticks** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:59 pm

Blazintrails03 wrote:I have nothing but respect for the 3 of you (hardtrailz, fishsticks, and navigator) as well everyone else on the site

Well aren't you just adorable. :finger:

No one here has respect for me anymore. I sold my TB and bought another Toyota. :raspberry:

by **Moots1288** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:00 pm

mikekey wrote:I wish I bought Radflos to start with. Ugh.

Should have.

by **Blazintrails03** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:01 pm

fishsticks wrote:
Blazintrails03 wrote:I have nothing but respect for the 3 of you (hardtrailz, fishsticks, and navigator) as well everyone else on the site

Well aren't you just adorable.

No one here has respect for me anymore. I sold my TB and bought another Toyota.

Haha that is true. I do think i remember reading something about banishment :finger:

by **chevycrew** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:13 pm

Some learn, some don't...

I ditched my toyota to go to the TB...

by **mikekey** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:15 pm

Moots1288 wrote:
mikekey wrote:I wish I bought Radflos to start with. Ugh.

Should have.

Next month sucker! :poke:

Then I can be cool and break things.

by **Moots1288** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:20 pm

mikekey wrote:
Moots1288 wrote:
mikekey wrote:I wish I bought Radflos to start with. Ugh.

Should have.

Next month sucker! Then I can be cool and break things.

Radflos save you from breaking things buddy.. Lockers break things

ask fish

by **mikekey** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:04 pm

Moots1288 wrote:Radflos save you from breaking things buddy.. Lockers break things ask fish

I was referring to my puny rear end.

by **Moots1288** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:28 pm

mikekey wrote:
Moots1288 wrote:Radflos save you from breaking things buddy.. Lockers break things ask fish

I was referring to my puny rear end.

Yea mine too.. The worst part about living in NYC finding a rear axle ::

by **darring70** » Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:07 am

I just order a set of Z71 rear coil/springs, a set of skyjacker N8030, a set of moog 81114 front coil/springs and a set of blistein hd struts

by **fishsticks** » Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:36 am

Washed it today... probably for the last time.

by **v7guy** » Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:13 am

Donny, did you trim the rear lower half of the fender back for more clearance?

by **HARDTRAILZ** » Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:20 am

v7guy wrote:Donny, did you trim the rear lower half of the fender back for more clearance?

The front one...

if so, Yes. Myself and Roadie and several other have as well. I took out about 2 inches at bottom and about 12 inches high, making a nice triangle. Most do not even notice.

by **fishsticks** » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:42 am

HARDTRAILZ wrote:
v7guy wrote:Donny, did you trim the rear lower half of the fender back for more clearance?

The front one...

if so, Yes. Myself and Roadie and several other have as well. I took out about 2 inches at bottom and about 12 inches high, making a nice triangle. Most do not even notice.

What he said.

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