Those with Sliders...

[HARDTRAILZ]

I am still trying to get some done and it seems the shop I wanted to do them will not be available til Nov and I am getting impatient. I am really considering the trail gear ones, but in the 67 inch length and not mounted backwards. I measure about 72-72.5 from my front fender cut to the rear fender opening. With have the 3 inch body lift and 33's I was wwondering if I would be ok centering them since it seems that as my tire comes off rocks, except straight ledges, there would be a taper as my tire went down that would allow my rail to be the next thing to hit. Or I am off completely and need to just wait? I also thought that it seems most people hit the front of the rail the most, so if I only left 1.5 inch or so gap from front fender and 3 inch gap to rear, would that work.

Advice is greatly appreciated, but custom will be much more as i can get the trail-gear for 150 delivered and welded cheap, I just cant get fab done cheap.

[teebes]

The trail-gear looks like a good deal! The gaps you're talking about should be fine. Just keep in mind you want to keep the rocks from getting trapped and catching your sliders tho, personally I like how long mine are.

Majority of hits will be from the front and rear as you drive along, but don't forget they also get used as a pivot point and general protection when off camber / rocky trails.

Can't wait to see some pics

[The Roadie]

I recommend getting the short ones and shading them towards the front. The "falling off a rock" use of them for me is lot less often than the "use them to pivot around a rock that's going to take out my door lower edge"

Here's an obstacle I got over many years ago and I wish I had them:



Here's Teebes before he got his, and we had to be careful on the sandstone edges:



Typical rock obstacle, where the driver's front tire is about to go off a ledge, and that puts the passenger side rocker panel at risk when the vehicle drops:



On this obstacle, you might touch the sliders, but only in the first foot after the front tire. Bigger challenge is making sure you have enough departure angle after the rear tire.

[HARDTRAILZ]

Alright. The Cali crew has spoken and I think I can trust them. I will be ordering them tonight. I thought the gaps wouldnt be too bad for the price and if I see damage too close to the edges, I will do something different, but from the pics..THANKS..i think I will be ok for what I do and where I go. Thanks for the quck response

[HARDTRAILZ]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Trail-Ge ... .m20.l1116

Worth it? I was thinking to flip it over and angle around the top of frame(body lift) and the gusset. Or just cut some gussets when i get them welded up.

[bartonmd]

Kyle,

If we do it here, I can cut and bend some 3/16" pieces like that, just without the holes (which you won't use anyway)

Mike

[HARDTRAILZ]

Sweet. I ordered them, so hopefully we can get them on in the next couple weeks.

[Gordinho80]

I'm inclined to agree with those who have them already. The shorter slider should not be an issue, but I personally would mount it closer to the front, leaving more of a gap at the rear. If you have the z71 springs and spacers in the back, you will generally already have more clearance back there. When coming off a rock, your tire is going to be right up to the edge of the rock...

Take a look at this pic taken from the TECORE II video. JD is coming off a rock step and taps his slider...

[HARDTRAILZ]

I got an idea of sleeving over the ends with some slightly bigger tubing that is thick walled to add 2 inches length if needed. just to keep rocks from trying to wedge in as easy, but not as a place to hook my hi-lift. Now just to get them and bribe Mike to help with the install for beer??

Just saw the pic of JD. I plan to shade them to the front and that shows me why, I think my idea of extention should be short enough and if thick enough should work oout ok for taps like that.

Another thought I had with them being a bit short is, I have a 3 inch body lift, so my frame will pick up some stuff before the body gets near some things.

[Trail X]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Trail-Gear-Rock-Slider-Gusset-Kit-6-Leg_W0QQitemZ110263321586QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item19ac34c3f2&_trksid=p4506.m20.l1116

Worth it? I was thinking to flip it over and angle around the top of frame(body lift) and the gusset. Or just cut some gussets when i get them welded up.

The whole point of those gussets is to relieve the tensional stresses on the frame at the bottom of the slider. To put them on upside down won't really provide as much stress releif... but it can't really hurt anything.

As for the sliders, I agree that you'd probably be fine with having extra room front and rear... however, mine are 77.25" long... the 67" sliders don't seem long enough to me... you'll be leaving 10" total exposed. Below are some quick dimensions off my sliders.

[HARDTRAILZ]

I have chopped the front fenders and only measure 72/73 so 6 inches max exposed. I meant the way the plate is bent to go around the bottom of frame, I would have to flip it and have the bend around the top of my frame with the lift. I plan to gusset top of tube to frame for sure and maybe add one going down for when there are 4 or 5 people standing on it to keep me from rolling over.

Looking at your pic, I will not have much room for a gusset going up with how high on the fram mine will be mounted, so I will definitely need plates welded to frame to spread the stress.

[bartonmd]

Looking at your pic, I will not have much room for a gusset going up with how high on the fram mine will be mounted, so I will definitely need plates welded to frame to spread the stress.

Yep... Plates welded top to bottom, and around the bottom (probably), then weld the tubes at the top, and the gussets at the bottom, in tension...

ETA: BTW, it won't take much bribing to get me to do them...

Mike

[Philberto]

So if your sliders are 77.25" James, then would I be dimensionally if I bought the 78" ones? I'm not bothered by having to modify them slightly.

[Trail X]

So if your sliders are 77.25" James, then would I be dimensionally if I bought the 78" ones? I'm not bothered by having to modify them slightly.

I see no problem with an extra .75" somewhere... plus you can always cut it down a bit and weld a new cap in there if you forsee an issue.

[The Roadie]

I see no problem with an extra .75" somewhere...

That's what SHE said.....

[HARDTRAILZ]

I am under the impression that AlekG and Roadies sliders are 72 inches. Correct???