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My plan for lifting with my limited knowledge about TB's...

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by The Roadie » Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:36 am

I agree. It's partly a test and partly a way to get your hackles up to THINK about what you're intending to do and WHY.

Folks who want lifts for looking good and going to the mall have NO idea why they would choose one setup over another. They are welcome to join trailvoy.com (what we also call the "OS" - or "Other Site") where there are a million posts and 70,000 members. We are not a site for discussing LMFAO (Lifts Meant For Appearance Only). :shoot:

There's an Offroad forum over there, but it's full of noobs asking the SAME old questions, and the owners of that site (where I am, BTW, a moderator and the #1 poster) have laid down rules that we are to be nice to noobs at all times, not mock them, and not demand too much thinking out of their tiny brains, and to not give them too much heat for posting in slang, no punctuation, no capitals, and generally looking like junior high girls tapping out text messages on their $20 cell phones where the search function is annoying to use. :finger:

Here, posting as if you're using a cell phone will get you some heat. It's the culture, that's all.

This site was set up by the founders for a more advanced level of discourse by members who were expected to come up to a certain level of knowledge on their own or by searching trailvoy.com, can use advanced search tactics, and can describe their offroad intentions by describing the trail conditions they want to conquer.

You simply CANNOT have a successful plan for lift, shocks, armor, and especially TIRES, unless you know what trails you have in your vicinity, and how aggressive you want to hit them. Recovery equipment, comm gear, trail spares, tools, and emergency kit needs to be budgeted for, not just the vehicle mods, and depends again on the trails and if you have a habit of going out alone. Getting the lift put on by a shop is also a clue that the poster is in it for the looks, since safety on the trail often depends on having the tools and experience to fix it where it breaks, and if you're not a DIY'er who can put on their own lift, you might be limited to easy trails where you might have fun, but you could embarrass the platform by getting stuck or breaking something trivial. And then the Jeeps will mock you and you might need $500-700 for an offroad extraction and THAT'S where you'll need the thick skin that we're trying to develop in new members by hazing them a bit here. :cheers:


Philosophical essay over.
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by ConradM » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:28 pm

Did you really just make that many assumptions in one post? I can assure you I would never lift something for "looks"... :thumbdown: I'm certain I've taken my stock rodeo with 31" tires more places a mildly lifted TB could hope to go... But then again TB's weren't meant to be off-road rigs.


I don't wheel anymore because I don't want to hurt the rodeo... But I do take regular trips out to the desert to shoot which requires a 4x4 with decent ground clearance.

Oh and the only reason I would have a shop do the lift on the TB is because it's the middle of winter and I don't have a garage. I was a heavy truck mechanic for years so working on a passenger car isn't exactly daunting. :raspberry:
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by The Roadie » Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:39 am

Not trying to assume anything about you specifically, but statistically, we get far too many 18-21 year olds discovering the site and asking the same old questions over and over again. You got caught in my stereotype filter. Sorry if you know your shit.
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by fishsticks » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:01 am

ConradM wrote:I'm certain I've taken my stock rodeo with 31" tires more places a mildly lifted TB could hope to go... But then again TB's weren't meant to be off-road rigs.



Neither were Isuzu Rodeos (AKA Honda Passports). Hang around and I think you'll find that a stock TB with a G80, decent tread and a good driver will go places your Rodeo never would. Add a lift and some tire and it wouldn't even be close.

I think Roadie's "Elliot Mine" vid was when he was "mildly lifted". :mrgreen: I wish I had a fearless camera man to document my travels...
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by ki3dragon » Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:04 am

The Roadie wrote:Not trying to assume anything about you specifically, but statistically, we get far too many 18-21 year olds discovering the site and asking the same old questions over and over again. You got caught in my stereotype filter. Sorry if you know your shit.


Well Ill be damned! You better clean or replace that filter cause I don't quite fit your stereotype either.
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by ConradM » Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:45 am

fishsticks wrote:
ConradM wrote:I'm certain I've taken my stock rodeo with 31" tires more places a mildly lifted TB could hope to go... But then again TB's weren't meant to be off-road rigs.



Neither were Isuzu Rodeos (AKA Honda Passports). Hang around and I think you'll find that a stock TB with a G80, decent tread and a good driver will go places your Rodeo never would. Add a lift and some tire and it wouldn't even be close.

I think Roadie's "Elliot Mine" vid was when he was "mildly lifted". :mrgreen: I wish I had a fearless camera man to document my travels...


It's just simple math man... Rodeo's have a shorter wheelbase with more ground clearance. I'm not trying to start a pissing match here... Hopefully the TB does great off-road cause I sure need it to.
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by ConradM » Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:26 pm

Mom-in-law just showed up with the TB and she had the factory springs in a box! :excited: I'm just going to order the Markmc lift+wheel spacers for now so I can go with bigger tires later.
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by Harry Moto » Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:14 am

Conrad: Excellent! Nothing like getting the stock stuff so you can undo the insanity! LOL

Roadie: You philosophical post at the top of this page brought a tear to my eye. That's Wonderful! Count me in.

I will say that searches here can be pretty frustrating. Like most really good forums where many of the members are basically old friends, threads wander quite a bit. I've searched tons to find simple answers; lucky for me I'm not ready to throw down the long green yet, so I'm in no hurry. I've even searched the OS quite a bit, but find that if I spend more than a half an hour there my spelling goes to he!! and I start to get a rash... Stay the course, this site works fine just like it is. IMHO
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