ok so I wonna make some custom mounts...

[06MidnightBlue]

I actually sank my old truck trying pull out a friend...and in turn...he plowed into me.

Just so you guys get an idea of the rigs we ran....

My truck: 2002 Ford F-350 TT Powerstroke, Dual 7" bull stacks, custom 6-speed tranny, 10" lift, 38x15.50-18 Super Swampers, "bullet proof" transfer case, 4.10 gears F&R.

His truck: 20-- Ram 2500 TT Cummins, 5" straight pipe, 6" lift and 37" mud tires, 4.11 gears F&R


Basically he was in a bog and sank all 4. I had about 50 feet of chain which I tied to the front of my truck (yes I had a front grill guard) and to the back of his...due to the fact that there was still about half a football field of bog he did not feel like crossing. I start pulling him and he nudges...a little. we do this about three more times before I get irritated and say f*ck it and I yank real hard...breaking him loose...while he has his foot pinned. He comes flying backwards and slams right into the front of my truck. Ain't that a b*tch?

[chevycrew]

Hearing "chain" just makes me cringe!

[06MidnightBlue]

dont cringe big dog...i had 1.5 inch thick links...it wasnt breaking....

[chevycrew]

Doesnt matter the size, a strap will help prevent some broken parts that the shock load of a chain creates, along with actually helping the recovery with the bungee, or recoil effect.


I was once a newb with chains, now I know they are for tying loads down, not yanking.

[bartonmd]

Doesnt matter the size, a strap will help prevent some broken parts that the shock load of a chain creates, along with actually helping the recovery with the bungee, or recoil effect.


I was once a newb with chains, now I know they are for tying loads down, not yanking.

Sing it, brother!

James did a calculation in another thread some time ago, and even a small to medium "jerk" on a chain shock loads the mounting points like 100x harder than a stretchy extraction strap under the same load...

Mike

[The Roadie]

And of course, the only proper dynamic recovery straps are the ones with end loops made out of the strap material. "Tow" straps with metal hooks at the end are only suitable for low-stress towing a vehicle on pavement, not extraction. The straps are not stretchy (the secret to a dynamic extraction is the accumulation of force during the stretch, so a smaller vehicle with momentum can extract a larger one, even.) and the metal hooks can kill you when the strap or the mount breaks.

[bartonmd]

And of course, the only proper dynamic recovery straps are the ones with end loops made out of the strap material. "Tow" straps with metal hooks at the end are only suitable for low-stress towing a vehicle on pavement, not extraction. The straps are not stretchy (the secret to a dynamic extraction is the accumulation of force during the stretch, so a smaller vehicle with momentum can extract a larger one, even.) and the metal hooks can kill you when the strap or the mount breaks.

Truth! I extracted, in 1 shot, a Ramcharger on 33's that was buried to the frame... with a stock '89 2-door S-10 Blazer... Bumper to bumper backed up to him, WOT in 4LO, and BOING!... He shot right up out of the holes he was in...

Shown here from the less-sunk side...

[06MidnightBlue]

you need to tell that guy to get a new set of tires on that rig man...lol

[bartonmd]

you need to tell that guy to get a new set of tires on that rig man...lol

They were pretty old, but were similar to BFG AT, and had pretty full tread... There's a thing that happens sometimes, when you spin the tires a lot in wet clay... They look like slicks...

Mike

[navigator]

the dude in the snow bank, it looked like after the first couple of tugs
he could have just pulled forward and then backed around that big drift.

[Trail X]

James did a calculation in another thread some time ago, and even a small to medium "jerk" on a chain shock loads the mounting points like 100x harder than a stretchy extraction strap under the same load...

Here's a link... http://www.offroadtb.com/articles/vehic ... recoveries (scroll down a bit)

Some people mistakenly think the sharp high forces from jerking a chain are good, but a longer, lower force is much more useful - and won't break things. For any newbies, the whole vehicle recovery article might be a good read.

[Chutes]

For any newbies, the whole vehicle recovery article might be a good read.

It was a good read. Quite interesting to hear it in practical terms rather than "just use a strap, chains are bad", not that I didn't believe it before.

So Jeff are you still making custom hooks or are you going to get the stock ones?

Alex